Deep setting for pasture: Equinox 600/800 (2025)

john nox600 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:19 pm50 tones how do find it mate. is it not to much on the ears . must admit have never used it just 2 tones

The better targets tend to be the deeper ones and 50 tones gives more info on targets close to limits of detection whether it is iron or not. With iron volume set at 1, 50 tones is fine.

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john nox600 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:19 pm50 tones how do find it mate. is it not to much on the ears . must admit have never used it just 2 tones

If you dont like the noise of 50 tones, i would suggest at least trying the 5 tones
My reasoning for that is (this is not scientifically proven though)

When you use 2 tones you have given your machine very strict instructions
If the target registers at this point or below on the conductivity scale then shout iron grunt
If the target registers at the highest point of the iron grunt or above then shout high tone

With 5 tones you have given your machine some breathing space and asked it for more information on your targets
So a target that is on the cusp of the cut off point on 2 tones may sound as an iron signal, but switch to 5 tones and that same signal may be interogated for more information and then sound as a diggable tone

The same when you step up to 50 tones, you are asking your machine for maximum information and giving it more breathing space to give you the possible correct and perfect signal response....

The cut off points in my opinion change when you ask your machine for more information
2 tones, basic dig or dont dig
5 tones the cut off points move as the machine looks for more information and edges on the side of a possible good target at lower conductivity scale
50 tones completely opens the machine up to try to place targets into specific categorys
You will find with 50 tones you do begin to recognise the sounds you are hearing...

Edit:
Just thinking about this and this was my train of thought on the E-trac when i owned it....old habits and all that
The nox is a different beast with how it handles and can be manipulated with the tone areas
But still might give some food for thought, so i'll leave it up here...

When on deep pasture i would use 5 tones is my preferred option as i find that 50 when i tried it like the Hot audio on my Deus it basically just tries my brain with audio overload,i can fully understand the logic why folks use it but its just not for me.

When using the Mox i use multi freq,AM on,5 tones and sensitivity as high as possible,also did have the 15'' coil but got the option to px it for a brand new Deus HF elliptical coil,so the deal was done,i got the new Deus coil but only paid £150 for the 15'' Nox coil,so done pretty good out of that deal.

For the most part the Equinox with the stock coil covers most of my needs on pasture,have also used 5khz as well,but i feel this newer 4khz enhanced freq could well be used more and more on pasture,only tried it a few trips out since the weekend but initial use feedback looks promising.But saying that still my preferred machines for deep pasture are the Whites TDI Pro (pulse) and both my Nexus MP and SE,those are the bad boys when depth is required.

Dukeynox800 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:59 pmWhat’s people’s go to setting for deep pasture mines the Gordon heritage setting the 4x4 programme it can really punch this setting on pasture with a couple tweaks depending on ground conditions it’s a great setting

I looked at that set up a few years back when i got my nox, but i dont remember if i actually plumbed that in at the time
Has it been tweaked and updated nowadays?
I will be visiting a pasture farm this week hopefully, i have never detected it before although it has had detectorists on it once or twice

I usually just use field 1 with a few tweaks of my own
dont ask me what those tweaks are though as i havent picked my machine up since before xmas sadly, and have forgotten

If you are recommending it then i'll make a brew and go take a look at Gordan's 4x4

Blackadder43 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:09 pmI looked at that set up a few years back when i got my nox, but i dont remember if i actually plumbed that in at the time
Has it been tweaked and updated nowadays?
I will be visiting a pasture farm this week hopefully, i have never detected it before although it has had detectorists on it once or twice

I usually just use field 1 with a few tweaks of my own
dont ask me what those tweaks are though as i havent picked my machine up since before xmas sadly, and have forgotten

If you are recommending it then i'll make a brew and go take a look at Gordan's 4x4

I use that 4x4 setting also, both in Field 1 and Field 2...I am not sure it's "the best" but it seems a good all round starting point on most ground....

Pete E wrote: ↑Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:58 pmI use that 4x4 setting also, both in Field 1 and Field 2...I am not sure it's "the best" but it seems a good all round starting point on most ground....

The thing I have found with most detectors is that you only need the settings to be something like to let you know that a target is there. An adjustment here or there may improve the target response a bit but you would still likely have detected it to. The best thing to do for the type of targets you are seeking on your land is to find a deep one that is a bit iffy and experiment with settings over it to see what works best. Even 20 khz can be completely blind to some targets that 15 khz or less will hit hard! Usually a Reactivity of 3 or 4 is best depending on ground, and Sensitivity as high as is reasonably stable. Less iron bias is best for finding those very deep iffy targets that are beyond TID range, which are my favourite type of targets. The 10 khz iron check is reliable when TID then jumps to constant high 20's but don't be fooled into thinking that it's iron when there are minus numbers as the target is out of single frequency TID range so is likely non-ferrous. That is the advantage of simultaneous multi-frequency.

Field 1
50 tones
Reactivity at 4 or 5
FE at 2 or 1.

Swing speed is the real key to finding small good stuff at the deeper end, by deep I mean anything greater than my Garrett pro pointer, 10"

I am happy to adjust these settings, including swing speed, depending if I am detecting pasture, stubble, or freshly prepared land.

john nox600 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:19 pm50 tones how do find it mate. is it not to much on the ears . must admit have never used it just 2 tones

I ve not tried 50 tones yet, having the same worry as you, but do use the 5 tones and found that an improvement over my 2 tone machine...

That said, now I have got my head around the basics of the Nox, I will give the 50 tone a try just to see if it can help me discriminate the rubbish from potentially good targets in the low number range...